Demigods would be a small group of 3 to 4 immortals who rule over a common category. They would be much weaker than the actual gods and have to share a shrine, a smaller version of a temple. They would get the following bonuses: a unique spell/power, moderation over their shrine area, 50 gold a week, and possibly more.

They would not get a group of Chosen, access to the Inner Room of the Temple of Unity (soon to be added), creation of their own temple, and a few other limitations.

The demigod positions would be (More may be added at a later time, or some even removed completely):

Shrine of Inspiration:

• Song
• Dance
• Art

Shrine of Season:

• Summer
• Autmn
• Winter
• Spring

Shrine of the Four Winds:

• West
• East
• North
• South

Shrine of Magical Beasts:

• Magic Equines
• Scalykind (Dragons)
• Avian

What do you think? Should there be demigods or not? Let me know your opinions on the matter. :)

So long as i am demigod of Dragons. :P I don't like the name Scaleykind though.

I might change that. lol. This is just the preliminary list. :)

Question: would they still be able to be a god's chosen?

Cause one of my goals is to be Lomen's Chosen.

I voted no based on a gut instinct.

My personal opinion is that the current system of having a direct differentiation between gods and mortals appears to be best fitted for the current Imythess atmosphere. The Knights of Imythess act as an effective "middle ground" between common player and high-ranked administrator so the best I could see is a rename of the title. Judging by the overall number of posts within Imythess temples, there is not enough RP demand to warrent additional positions of "higher powers."

The majority of recent posts in temples have primarily been about becoming a chosen or dealing with a prestige class. While I do not discount the posts that are true RPs between mortal and immortal, I believe that, at least as currently designed, the demigods would not add much in this respect.

Now, I can agree that perhaps moderators could be moved over to take over some of these positions (after a little in-fighting to figure out who gets any competitive spots) to give them a more immersive role in the world of Imythess. This is basically the only current existing position that has no tie to RP and it might be nice to smooth out that bump. Moderators would have the same powers (give or take) as demigods anyway, so I do not see much of a problem.

To finalize, this is just a gut instinct of mine. I can say in all honesty that I see both success and failure with this idea, and this will not be determined until it is tried. I can definately see this in the future when the overall active playerbase increases and the new website adds a lot more history to the world, but right now I just cannot say.

:D OF COURSE! That's a perfect opening for one of my characters :D

What on earth are those other magicle beast titles?

Putting my greed aside, not an easy task, I think Sargoth has a point.
all of the demigod postion for inspiration are little different and the four winds are totaly underscored by Ciara.

Ya, obviously. But it's already stated that demigods are "weaker" than gods.

Thank you for repeating your self. My point was the demigods of wind, which I beive your comment reffers to, is that there would be little diffrence between them. They would be Ciara's mini-mes. That would be an interesting bit for her elite though.

Well......I repeated myself "MR. PERFECT", because I knew you probably wouldn't read an answer to one question from a post above it.... <_<

Secondly, the Watch Towers of the Four Winds are supposedly sacred in some way, and each have their own difference. Being a small part Wiccan, it was stated that each of the four winds were actually an element. Fire, Water, Wind, and Earth. But none of you guys would know about that....

And lastly, I have new Demigod ideas thanks to my friend.

Shrine of the Astral Plane:

- Dreams

- Illusions

- Time

Please do not hate, cooperate. I think these are great ideas, whether any of you do or not.

Laoura has started this poll to hear both positive and negative opinions about this possible addition. You are obviously all for the idea and that is fine.

I have indeed heard of the Four Winds and their elemental relationships, but if you will notice, there are current Gods for Fire, Water, Wind, and Earth in some form or another. My primary dissent, and what Ace has been speaking about, regards the fact that there is no reason to thin out these "powers" from current Gods who hardly have enough RPers interested in visiting the temples as it is. It is not so much about the literal displacement of physical power, but a dilution of already limited roleplay.

To give you a more current example now that this topic has been made popular, your new ideas regarding the Shrine of the Astral Plane can easily be attributed to the current Goddess of Deception, at the very least. I have already offered my idea that perhaps the Knights of Imythess could assume these minor roles just for the sake of being more IC, but Ace too has mentioned that they could just be attributed abilities of each current Gods'/Goddesses' Chosen.

I would hate to see anyone simply bash this idea without constructive criticism, but so long as there is logic behind the argument (either for or against), this should be an open forum for it to be discussed rationally. Again, I voted no based off of a gut instinct, but it still might just work out very well.

Ya, you obviously have a good reason for your oppinion too. I'm not completely dissing you sillies.

And you know...if atleast half the gods were able to actually rp nicely.....more people would want to rp with them. Not to mention, I think it's better if the gods put themselves in the middle of peoples rps. In anctient greece, rome and what not....the gods were all up in mortal's bussiness!

*Looks above* Now that is definately something worthy of talking about, Artemis. You brought up an important point that might just be a big topic sooner or later. On an unrelated note regarding the Greek and Roman gods... look how that turned out ;).

I voted no. I am not exactly sure why, it is just a gut feeling I have and I usually listen to that feeling or bad things happen, lol.

I like the idea. :)

Now, I have read through all of what has been said and even Master Ace's concern about the four winds. (though I wonder about the possiblities I feel that it could very well be interesting for not only my character but those that fill the other positions as well -so long as no one pushes me out of my own position hehe-) I think you all have valid points and just before I continue I would like you to remember that everyone is allowed to have their very own opinion on this matter, that is why the poll has been set up of course ;) Be mindful of how you respond as you don't want to be defensive at this point just yet. Just friendly discussion and brainstorming of ideas for the time being..

Alright, with that out of the way, I have voted yes. Perhaps not for the same groupings that have been offered to us, but for the idea of it all. Maybe it does not have to happen today or tomorrow but like Sargoth has suggested, once our RP warrants it. Now I realize I myself have not been as active as I once used to be but still, too much of the role-play in my own temple has been to be my chosen. Most of the interaction that Ciara gets with the mortals that come to visit her are for the purpose of becoming closer to her and the element she is divine over.

I really do like the idea of demigods and shrines, I think it can widen the diversity here in Imythess and truly prove to extend our thread possibilities. With a little work and perhaps even a little bit of time I would like to see something like this come into play here in Imythess.

Does everyone think i'm being rude???? :blink:

I know you guys are talking about me....I'm not being rude ya know... :unsure: :unsure: :blink: :blink:

And uhhh....ya. It's not suppose to always go nicely. Besides....we can change that...

Next issue, does no one want to say anything about my shrine ideas....are they really that bad? :lol:


Uhhhhhhh, what else was i goin to say....

I voted yes because I like the idea. :)

Oh Oh, I remember now.

Could I be given a couple months to compose a great storyline for the site. It's up to each individual whether to follow it or make up their own. They can also work their own rp into the one that i'd be creating. You can ask alot of my friends, I personally think I am pretty good at making up a unique story for each rp. I know it's sort of a bad idea, and should be given to someone who has been here longer if ever made. But I feel that since I am the one asking, I could atleast be given a chance to compose a well written story and present it to any admins that are available. Obviously our dear creater doesn't have all the time in the world, so maybe I could get it approved by another first, then they can recommend it or not.

It will have everything to do with gods, goddesses.....heroes villains....everything.

I would also like to make certain positions in the rp. Such as....Main Hero, Main Heroin. MAIN God/dess of "good" MAIN God/dess of "evil". and Main Villian.

This would indeed give alot to the environment of Imythess, and It will give more people a chance to interract. Party systems would be nice where groups of people travel around. Obviously, it would be a "project" to get more rp places here for that. Unless we add some places from the Advanced rp over to the new one as well.

These are all just normal ideas, and should not be taken offensive, or very heavily. I'm not saying that this place will die without this....obvisouly it won't if it's flourished for this long! But It would be a very nice addition. Please think it over. Any comments of "construction" critisizm would be MUCH appreciated.

I'm sort of neutral on the situation, but I voted yes. I know that Imythess already has a lot of gods, but it would be cool to have such minor gods in play. There are tons of minor gods in both normal mythology and fiction, like Forgotten Realms. It'd be cool to have more active gods dabbling in mortal affairs. Demigods would have to be pretty carefully regulated by the actual gods to 'keep them in their place' lol, just so they didn't try to run around and act like the actual gods.

Wow we don't have that many nos. If we do have demigods added I sugest that we get rid of the the four winds. We would change the demigods of inspiration to muses. and...hold a sec

Taking Meru's idea on the astral shrine:

• time
• dreams
• stars

Illusions would be too much like the goddess of deception. If we are to have demigods I would rather that they were more or less unique unlike the four winds nad unlike the demigod/muses of inspirtaion.

Ok then. How about

Dreams

Stars

Time

An interesting prospect, I like it! I personally prefer it over royalty, but that's just me. Keep up the good work.

Ya ya. Both are good ideas though ^_^ Any gods want to accept my idea....or deny it at least, lol.

And now it is time for Oppel's two cents;

Personally, I think demigods are a great idea. And I don't like it when people bash Artemis, indirectly or not :D . It's not nice, and I dont really like it when people act like that. What ever happened to being friendly?

Anyway back on topic,
Yea I do like this idea. This is because, I'm not the most active of gods. And that's just a fact. And I know that people like it when gods roleplay with them. Its fun! I remember back in the day when I was a regular member. Demigods would give people the opportunity to roleplay with a higher authority. It would even take a load of my shoulders. And for all I care, I dont really think having a demigod "takes away" from the gods. For all I care, there could be a demigod of plants, terrain, animals, whatever as long as it makes sense. It would also be a nice change, but of course they'd have to be people that I like, otherwise I wouldn't enjoy it as much :D

hmmm, you alll make good points (*cough* not that I actually read everything, just skimmed) but I think that demi-gods would be good... Not to mention I can be greedy and should Laoura and the others decide to actually have an Illusions demi-god, I can push Adia for that...

Anyway, getting back to the subject, I think that the demi-gods should sorta fall under a certain god. For instance, the Wind Demi-gods would fall under Ciara and in an event, would have to follow her decisions as she rules over them or something like that. Another example, Dreams and Illusions might fall under Light as I tend to think those go with it(dont ask why) while if you, as Oppel said, have plants, animals(oooh, I'd like that too) and that such those demi-gods would fall under his reign.
Come to think of it, How about a Demi-god of the Hunt? I think that'd be cool. oooh, and what about a Demi-god of Balance? Because you know, balance is extremely important *nodnod*

Did all of that make sense to you? Hopefully because that was the best I could it explain it.

If demi god are going to be of a god then we might as well leave them out. The God's elite are practicaly demigods anyways. Once agian I would like to state that I think the demigod should be unique of other demigods as well as the gods. The demigods of the four winds would all be little different and close too close to the goddess of wind herself. As or illusions that would come too close to Varlia's territory. demigod of hunt and balace sound good, but to fit in with the rest would need a shrine with other demigods.

Well ace has a point, but it all depends on Laoura's intentions. Demigods could be minor-gods that reflect positions that aren't covered by the gods, or they could be like subdivisions of a god's rulings. Because demigods can be those who have a minor portion of a god's powers.

I took this from dictioanry.com:

A male being, often the offspring of a god and a mortal, who has some but not all of the powers of a god.

Just think about it not saying a male being, and not necessarily the offspring of a god and a mortal. And it says it has "some but not all of the powers of a god".

Once again, the ball's in Laoura's court. It all depends on her intentions.

So then are you saying, well if i use you as an example. That you would have like people under your rule or whatever as like Protector of the forest or protector of the desert. Or would it be like Lord( or whatever the title is) OF snakes or reptiles.

The intentions of demigods would be to have minor gods covering some things that the major gods have neglected and that are not of the same importance, such as the Inspiration gods.

This topic will be closed as I think these discussions have gone on enough and I should be able to make my decision based on a lot of what was posted here.

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